Man, I wish this lightboard tracing I did was a real drawing. I’d gotten into a rather fine mood in general and then looked at it for some reason and now I feel crabby. My, what a fickle beast I am.
Wordcount navel-gazing: I ended up with 3K and came in at 228 pages. I obviously could have made the last 2, but as a reward to my sullen writer brain, or something, I watched two episodes of GG and ate strawberries with whipped cream. I’m reasonably certain the whipped cream is defeating the nutritional value of the strawberries, but since I wouldn’t eat them without it, it … comes out in the wash?
Ok. I’ve watched through the first 5 episodes of season 2 now. I spent most of the 4th episode going, “…did Lorelai tell *Max* the wedding was off, or did she just let him find out through the Miss Pattie gossip mill?” Deborah says a later episode indicates the former, but the latter is so Lorelai I just assumed that’s what had happened, and felt cheated out of the scene were poor goddamned Max finds out. I don’t even *like* Max in the sense of thinking he’s a good match for Lorelai, but man, he deserves better than her.
Actually, feeling fairly strongly that pretty much anybody deserves better than Lorelai. Possible favorite line so far was Max telling her she needed to learn to think about somebody other than herself for a few minutes every day. Luke’s a better match for her because he’ll shove himself into her life whether she wants him to or not, and Max is too good a guy to do that (not that Luke isn’t, but he’s pushier), but man, anybody who carves a chuppah like that deserves better than Lorelai, too.
I love Emily and Lorelai’s relationship. (Part of the reason I’m enjoying this show so much is because it’s a sort of bright mirror reflection of my character Kit’s life, and Emily is the sort of character Kit’s mother is. Actually, Rory’s a character sort of like Kit’s son is, too, and…yeah. That’s definitely part of why I like the show.) It’s a little hard to pick favorite characters (thank GOD they got rid of the harp player), but I like Emily very much indeed. She’s certainly got her god-awful moments, but she’s got her really wonderful moments of vulnerability, too. Nice stuff.
I’ve just been introduced to Jess. I’m assuming the genuine bad boy Jess is going to prove to be Rory’s intellectual match, and charming, sweet, wonderful Dean is going to be badly, and perhaps rightfully, threatened by this.
I’m sure I have more commentary, but I’m getting tired. :)
miles to Isengard: 168
ytd wordcount: 219,900
Ahhhh, Jess.
FWIW, Jess’s actor is dating Alexis Bledsel in RL nowadays. :)
I think I actually know vaguely where you are on the show now. My problem was I came in after it started but I’m not sure if it was end of season one or beginning of season two. I’m guessing from what you said it’s end of season one, now, because I remember Max and the train wreck which was their !wedding.
I love most of the relationships in the show. Lorelai and Rory’s is very odd, but the rest, you can point at and say “Yeah, I know people like that”. Broken but *believably* broken. Realistically broken. *flails*
I’m also quite fond of GG. I started watching at the end of the third season, at (I believe) RL Emily’s recommendation. I’ve been watching the episodes from the beginning on home-made DVD’s with Chris. We’ve only just gotten to the episodes where I came in.
These episodes are very different, now that I know who all the players are.
Really, you don’t like Lorelai? I find that exteremly interesting and would love to know your reasons. She’s actually my favorite character, but she’s definately flawed. I love Emily too, just wait til season 3.
If I start out saying that I think all great characters need flaws, can I ask what about Lorelai as a character appeals to you?
Absolutely!
I like Lorelai because she’s really posative and full of energy, but her energy is more than perkiness. I like that when people are in trouble she almost always knows how to fix it so that a fiasco turns into a fun event. I also like that she’s communicates openly with her duaghter. Coming from a home with a very authoritarian mom, I would love to have such an open relationship when I have kids where you can talk about anything.
Shallow maybe, but I think she’s also very beautiful. Not in your typical way though, she’s not uber-thin and she’s smart. She can take care of herself. She’s very independant and knows a lot about pop-culture rather than being some insipid blond. OK, that’s way too long. I’ll stop now.
The very short answer is I think she’s a twit. :)
In somewhat more detail, I think her relationship with Rory is deeply screwed up, although I understand perfectly *why* she chose to develop that kind of relationship, and despite it being screwed up she’s obviously raised a great kid, so my external opinion here has nothing to do with her actual parenting skills. But I think the line of the parent/child dynamic is far too blurred because Lorelai’s so immature, and that Rory might be a more relaxed kid if she didn’t have to be the adult in the relationship.
I think Lorelai’s manic “let’s have fun!” approach is creepy in a 32 year old woman. Not that I object to having fun, but she does it to an exclusion of reality which is unhealthy for an adult. The result of this is that when she suddenly turns all adult-like and responsible and lays down the law it’s jarring and betraying, especially to Rory, who is accustomed to her mother being a twit.
I think Lorelai’s hopelessly selfish. She’s never outgrown being 16. People keep telling me that she comes through like a champ for friends when the chips are down, but I haven’t seen it yet.
I mean, sure, yeah, Lorelai’s great fun, no doubt about it, and she’s entertaining to watch, but I’d get very impatient with her as a friend in real life. I just hope she grows up.
There is very much in the Emily -> Lorelai -> Rory relationships that reek of my Grandmother -> Mother -> Me relationships. And yet, it is absolutely nothing like my family.
Hmmm, you’re not totally off the mark. Although I think a lot of Rory’s obedient maturity (for lack of a better descriptive word) also stems from the fact that her father will have very little to do with her. I dunno, though. I think your main issue with Lorelai may stem from Palladino’s lack of writing experience. The show’s main flaw over time seems to be inconsistency in the characterization that was developed in the pilot episode. Instead of growing, I find a lot of characters become more bland. I don’t want to spoil anything though, so I’ll shut up.